Does water baptism save?

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 1 Peter 3:18-20

Some say that verse 20 shows that water baptism saves. After all, it does say that eight souls were saved by water. But if you think about it, that same water that saved eight souls also killed the rest of the earth.

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10 Responses to “Does water baptism save?”

  1. MissionaryMark says:

    Water is not what saves one in baptism, rather it is the blood of Christ Jesus that saves us through our confession of belief, and our action upon that faith. No, the water is not the important part of baptism, though it is neccesary, we often lose focus of the true power that saves us in baptism.

  2. Nothing about baptism saves. To be saved, one must repent and trust Christ. Baptism is just a picture of what happened.

    If baptism represents burial and resurrection, do you bury a living man or a dead man?

  3. MissionaryMark says:

    In response to the comment of what type of man you bury I say that in baptism we DIE to ourselves so that Christ may live through us in our hearts and our actions. Repenting for one’s sins is neccesary for salvation, but if one is not willing to take the initiative to partake in the action that Christ gives us as the means to recieve salvation, then one is not truly wanting of the mercy that only Christ can give. If baptism is truly not a neccesary part of salvation then why did Christ make it a point to be baptised himself? The answer to that is that he was baptised so that we would have an example of what we were to do in order to recieve our salvation and the Holy Spirit.

  4. So you advocate burying living men?

    Can you put another man into Christ?

  5. MissionaryMark says:

    yes i DO advocate buring living men.
    the greek for baptism is baptisto, meaning to be submerged or buried. so yes in essence we are being buried in the water so that we can recieve the cleansing that only Christ’s blodd can give. i think that to many people get hungh up on the whole “burial” thing. We are told that we are to be buried with Christ through baptism, and in doing that we die to ourselves, so really in essence we are DEAD when are buried, and Christ’s blood redeems us so that in our new spiritual birth we can show his glory in our lives by letting Him live in us.

  6. Where does it say that in baptism we die to ourselves?

    You just contradicted yourself. You say we are baptized in order die to oneself and then you say we are dead when we are buried. Which is it?

    At what point is a person born again?

  7. MissionaryMark says:

    Acts 2:38 (New International Version)

    38Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    If this verse is not enough, nothing ever will be.

  8. And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
    Acts 16:31

    If this verse is not enough to show baptism is not needed for salvation, nothing ever will be.

    Proof-texting is sooo much fun! 😉

    You didn’t answer the questions above:

    Where does it say that in baptism we die to ourselves?

    At what point is a person born again?

  9. And another unanswered question from earlier:

    Can you put another man into Christ?

  10. I agree with Gordy. I was saved on July 16, 1995 by following the Roman’s Road which ends in…
    {Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.}

    I had to ask for forgiveness with my mouth, not with being dunk into a river. Can I get an AMEN?

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